{"id":2941,"date":"2024-08-26T18:30:40","date_gmt":"2024-08-26T15:30:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zilelemaghiare.ro\/?p=2941"},"modified":"2024-08-26T18:30:40","modified_gmt":"2024-08-26T15:30:40","slug":"cum-e-istoria-ca-la-manual","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/magyarnapok.ro\/2024\/ro\/cum-e-istoria-ca-la-manual\/","title":{"rendered":"Cum e istoria \u201eca la manual\u201d\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>\u201eImaginea Transilvaniei \u00een \u00eenv\u0103\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntul public din Ungaria \u0219i Rom\u00e2nia\u201d <\/strong>a fost dialogul care s-a desf\u0103\u0219urat \u00een ultima zi a Zilelor Culturale Maghiare \u00een organizarea MCC (Mathias Corvinus College), sub egida MCC Lounge, pe terasa din spate, din curtea casei TIFF. Prelegerea a avut loc \u00een limba maghiar\u0103, cu traducere simultan\u0103 \u00een casc\u0103, \u00een limba rom\u00e2n\u0103. Invitat a fost istoricul <strong>J\u00e9r\u00e9my Floutier<\/strong>, lector universitar, consul onorific al Fran\u021bei \u00een Ungaria, care l-a avut ca interlocutor pe <strong>Veres Val\u00e9r<\/strong>, sociolog, profesor asociat la Universitatea \u201eBabe\u0219-Bolyai\u201d,  decan adjunct la Institutul de Sociologie \u0219i Asisten\u021b\u0103 Social\u0103 Maghiar\u0103 al Universit\u0103\u021bii \u201eBabe\u0219-Bolyai\u201d din Cluj, pre\u0219edinte al Funda\u021biei de Cercetare Social\u0103 \u201eMax Weber\u201d. Domeniile sale de cercetare sunt identitatea minorit\u0103\u021bilor na\u021bionale \u0219i stratificarea social\u0103, transformarea structurii popula\u021biei \u0219i cauzele declinului popula\u021biei \u00een Transilvania, cercetarea tinerilor (consumul tinerilor, planurile de viitor \u0219i cre\u0219terea, mediul social \u0219i mobilitatea). <strong>J\u00e9r\u00e9my Floutier<\/strong> de\u021bine un doctorat \u00een istorie la universit\u0103\u021bile din Szeged (Ungaria) \u0219i Paris I Panth\u00e9on-Sorbonne (Fran\u021ba). Cercet\u0103rile sale se concentreaz\u0103 asupra reprezent\u0103rii Transilvaniei \u00een educa\u021bia din Ungaria \u0219i Rom\u00e2nia \u00eentre 1945 \u0219i 1990. Pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 activitatea sa \u0219tiin\u021bific\u0103, a predat istoria Europei Centrale \u0219i de Est la Universitatea Catolic\u0103 de Vest (Nantes, Fran\u021ba) \u0219i la Universitatea din Szeged (Ungaria). Pentru c\u0103 domeniile de interes ale celor doi interlocutori se \u00eent\u00e2lnesc, istoricul \u0219i sociologul s-au \u00eentre\u021binut cordial \u0219i au completat un tablou al manualelor de istorie din cele dou\u0103 \u021b\u0103ri.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Concluzia este c\u0103 reprezentarea istoriei \u00een cele dou\u0103 manuale este extrem de diferit\u0103, nu primeaz\u0103 acelea\u0219i teme, abordarea este de pe alte puncte de vedere, teoriile istorice nu c\u0103 nu coincid, dar nici m\u0103car nu se pun de acord. Un fapt comun exist\u0103: \u00een niciuna din \u021b\u0103ri, manualele de istorie nu au fost de acord cu edi\u021biile precedente, mereu istoria s-a schimbat, dup\u0103 directivele \u0219i linia pe care le lua partidul unic din acea \u021bar\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 ele sunt c\u00e2nd, socialiste, c\u00e2nd staliniste, c\u00e2nd interna\u021bionaliste, c\u00e2nd na\u021bionalist-comuniste. Ba, \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, a fost \u0219i cazul de pomin\u0103, c\u00e2nd dup\u0103 venirea lui Ceau\u0219escu la putere, manualul de istorie de clasa a VIII-a a lui Roller, cel care fusese numit p\u00e2n\u0103 atunci \u201est\u0103p\u00e2nul istoriei\u201d, fost dat la topit, a disp\u0103rut din \u0219coli \u0219i biblioteci, din bibliografii. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen expunerea sa, <strong>J\u00e9r\u00e9my Floutier<\/strong> a spus c\u0103 va \u00eencerca s\u0103 r\u0103spund\u0103 de ce e Transilvania important\u0103 pentru ambele \u021b\u0103ri, Ungaria \u0219i Rom\u00e2nia. Ungurii sunt tare m\u00e2ndri de istoria lor de peste 1.000 de ani \u0219i se simt indisolubil lega\u021bi de secui. <em>\u201eCe sunt secuii?, am \u00eentrebat la \u00eenceputul studiilor mele. Mi s-a spus: &lt;Secuiul e ca maghiarul, doar c\u0103 mai bun>. Mai &lt;Da, face sarmale mai bune, danseaz\u0103 mai bine, \u0219i bea mai bine>\u201d<\/em>, \u00ee\u0219i aminte\u0219te istoricul francez de \u00eent\u00e2lnirea cu primele stereotipuri identitare, condensate \u00eentr-o glum\u0103. <em>\u201eDar \u0219i pentru rom\u00e2ni Transilvania e important\u0103, pentru c\u0103 Rom\u00e2nia fiind mai \u00eenspre Balcani, pentru ei Occidentul e important, iar pentru ei Transilvania e Occidentul ei. Capitala Transilvaniei ungure\u0219ti, dar \u0219i a celei rom\u00e2ne\u0219ti este Clujul. De ce merit\u0103 s\u0103 ne ocup\u0103m de manuale? Pentru c\u0103 ele nu sunt fixe. Ele se schimb\u0103 o dat\u0103 cu puterea. \u00centr-un manual de istorie, avem partea de pedagogie, apoi partea de istorie &#8211; cercet\u0103rile istorice apar \u00een manuale, dup\u0103 ce sunt validate, apoi intervine statul care are o politic\u0103. Statul este cel care hot\u0103r\u0103\u0219te politica memoriei. Iar memoria trebuie controlat\u0103. Rela\u021biile dintre state trebuie controlate. Noi \u00een discu\u021bia noastr\u0103 vom face referire la dou\u0103 no\u021biuni istorice particulare: Carpa\u021bii \u0219i Trianonul, cu toate c\u0103 exist\u0103 abord\u0103ri diferite \u0219i \u00een privin\u021ba altor teme, cum sunt r\u0103scoalele \u021b\u0103r\u0103ne\u0219ti sau revolu\u021bia de la 1948. C\u00e2nd Ungaria \u0219i Rom\u00e2nia intr\u0103 \u00een comunism, cam \u00een aceea\u0219i perioad\u0103, stalinismul de atunci le impune o politic\u0103 a fr\u0103\u021biei statelor socialiste. Cu toate acestea ambele \u021b\u0103ri au jonglat cu acest imperativ impus. A\u0219a c\u0103 rom\u00e2nii au operat cu ideea c\u0103 mun\u021bii Carpa\u021bi sunt zona de leg\u0103tur\u0103 dintre ei. Carpa\u021bii uneau, nu delimitau. Istoricii unguri vorbeau \u00eenainte de &#8217;45 de Bazinul Carpatic, care \u00een anii de politici mai radicale devine chiar Bazinul Unguresc, no\u021biune folosit\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een 1948. Apoi au folosit o no\u021biune nou\u0103, Bazinul Dun\u0103rean. Tisa, un alt fluviu important, inclusiv din punct de vedere istoric \u0219i geo-politic, a avut o soart\u0103 \u0219i mai ingrat\u0103. A disp\u0103rut din manualele de istorie ale ambelor \u021b\u0103ri. Vedem deci c\u0103 diferen\u021ba de abordare este foarte mare. Trecem la Trianon, de\u0219i ca francez e jenant s\u0103 vorbesc despre asta. Cercet\u0103rile m-au dus la concluzia c\u0103 Trianonul a fost o mare dram\u0103 pentru maghiarii din actuala Ungarie, \u00een timp ce cei din afara Ungariei s-au obi\u0219nuit mai bine cu ideea \u0219i au suferit mai pu\u021bin. \u00cen studierea acestei teme am observat, dup\u0103 abordarea din manuale, c\u0103 to\u021bi comuni\u0219tii vor s\u0103 fie \u0219i patrio\u021bi. A\u0219a c\u0103 dup\u0103 mult\u0103 t\u0103cere subiectul Trianon \u00een anii &#8217;80 nu mai este a\u0219a tabu. \u00cel abordeaz\u0103 \u0219i \u00eel privesc \u00eentr-o latur\u0103 dramatic\u0103. Pentru rom\u00e2ni, Trianonul a fost floare la ureche, aproape absent din manualele de istorie, pentru ei nodal\u0103 a fost Marea Adunare de la Alba Iulia, la care las\u0103 s\u0103 se \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 dovezi c\u0103 au fost \u0219i participan\u021bi din Regatul Rom\u00e2niei. Manualele de istorie comuniste ungure\u0219ti mult timp au minimizat efectul pe care l-a avut asupra Ungariei Trianonul. Au spus c\u0103 Ungaria a pierdut 5% din teritoriu, pe c\u00e2nd ea pierduse 70%, iar trei milioane de maghiari tr\u0103iau \u00een afara statului ungar. Dac\u0103 privim manualele, \u00een primii ani de comunism, rela\u021biile de prietenie rom\u00e2no-maghiare erau foarte puternice. Ai putea crede c\u0103 sub \u00eendrumarea interna\u021bionalism-socialismului s-au \u00een\u021beles cel mai bine cele dou\u0103 \u021b\u0103ri, din toat\u0103 istoria lor. La Bucure\u0219ti, \u201eproprietarul istoriei\u201d, Mihai Roller, impusese c\u00e2teva idei simple: tot ce vine din Est este bun, tot ce este din Vest este r\u0103u, apare \u00een manuale inclusiv ideea originii slavo-daco-romane a poporului rom\u00e2n, iar Adunarea de la Alba-Iulia a fost ceva imperialist pentru c\u0103 nu a sprijinit o republic\u0103 popular\u0103. Rom\u00e2nul bun era cel care sprijinea republica popular\u0103. Dar \u00een 1965 vine la putere Ceau\u0219escu. Manualele se rescriu, comunismul-na\u021bionalist \u00ee\u0219i arat\u0103 germenii. \u00cen acest timp manualele se schimb\u0103 de trei ori, \u00een care maghiarii buni sunt doar cei care sprijin\u0103 Marea Unire. Iar Ungaria devine o \u021bar\u0103 cu totul str\u0103in\u0103, pomenit\u0103 doar \u00een contexte interna\u021bionale. Istoria devine o poveste care promoveaz\u0103 originea, permanen\u021ba, continuitatea \u0219i unitatea\u201d<\/em>.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sociologul <strong>Veres Val\u00e9r<\/strong> a ad\u0103ugat c\u0103, \u00eentr-adev\u0103r <em>\u201ememoria manualelor reflect\u0103 memoria statului, iar memoria statului este politic\u0103. \u00centr-adev\u0103r, programa manualelor a p\u0103strat \u00een timp ca func\u021bie formarea identit\u0103\u021bii na\u021bionale. Mai este ceva: \u00een anii comunismului una se preda \u00een clase, \u0219i cu totul alceva era \u00een manuale. \u00cen toate manualele de istorie, ale ambelor p\u0103r\u021bi, Transilvania este captiv\u0103 \u0219i este privit\u0103 mereu ca o provincie. Ea este provincia. Iar \u00een manuale se v\u0103d pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 tendin\u021bele discursului oficial na\u021bional, \u0219i tendin\u021bele de mu\u0219amalizare, de opacizare\u201d.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Foto: MCC<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201eImaginea Transilvaniei \u00een \u00eenv\u0103\u021b\u0103m\u00e2ntul public din Ungaria \u0219i Rom\u00e2nia\u201d a fost dialogul care s-a desf\u0103\u0219urat \u00een ultima zi a Zilelor Culturale Maghiare \u00een organizarea MCC (Mathias Corvinus College), sub egida MCC Lounge, pe terasa din spate, din curtea casei TIFF. Prelegerea a avut loc \u00een limba maghiar\u0103, cu traducere simultan\u0103 \u00een casc\u0103, \u00een limba rom\u00e2n\u0103. 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